Arguments Against Evolutionism: Summary

Be Careful with confusion generated when "Science" mixs races and species

Strong Arguments Against Evolutionism

Darwinism and Homosexuality

Creationism and Evolutionism are Incompatible

Incoherence in Scientifical Dates

What Jesus Says (23/6/2023)

Explanation: LIGER's Paralell. Hominids Not in the Ark.

Science Admits Hybridization with Neandertals.

Humans Only ~6.000 Years Old

(4/8/2023) Why Did Bestiality Happen Between Men and Hominids?

Modern Man was ~30.000 Years "Stupid"

The Neolithic Period (19/8/2023)

Cross Darwinism/Creationism with a Serious Map from ~2000 BC

Curiosity: The Ships of Tarshish Around Africa

No to Genetic Kameroun Adam. Instead: Demography, Muslim Terror and Ships of Tarshish seemed to Trigger Cushite Migrations (21.9.2023)

What about World Maps before ~2000 BC?

Maths & Probability Models to Unmask Fake Dates (07.09.2020)

Created from the Clay of the Ground

2 Different Recites of Creation?

Scientifical Magazins are aware, but the Lie must Remain!

What about the Origin of the Human Races?

Having Children of Different Races?

The Race Witchcraft (4/9/2023)

Over www.christianideas.eu...

Be Careful with Confusion generated when "Science" mixes Races and Species

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Please take into account that, currently, scientists are "trying" to change the traditional definition of species, to mix races and species, in order to create confusion and ambiguity.

We refer, thus, here, to the traditional, serious, definition of species.

Ex. The new species (ex-races?) of girafes or "the criteria of definition of specie" to distinguish different types of bacteria's... In the case of E. Coli, they mutate, and became immune to a toxic agent, acid citric. This feature is typical of other species of bacteria, e.g. Salmonella. Thus, a "huge mutation" which creates a new specie. But tuberculosis resistant to toxic agent (antibiotic) or a man which becomes immune to Aids or Ebola, they don't "even" change of specie (yet!)... Please don't forget to compare the pictures of the new different species (races, no?) of giraffes and search the differences...it is a good exercise...

Strong Arguments Against Evolutionism

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Without contesting the scientific facts and experiments, I have however a few arguments to defend the idea of Creationism of the Lord.

• Genetic mutations in the nature can cause diseases, e.g., cancer, or trigger diversity within a specie, but they don't trigger a change into a new superior specie. It is Jesus self that confirms that: several messages unmasking these evolutionist claims can be found at the French website www.apparitionsmariales.org.

  Example: the E. coli experiment: this experience, having as goal to study the evolutionist features of this bacteria with time, started in 1988. The bacteria takes an average of a few hours to reproduce herself (~4 hours), and presently, we have already about 65.000 generations of the bacteria (60.000 generations by man: ~60.000 generations x ~25 years/generation = 1.500.000 years). Mutant E. coli succeeded after ~31.000 generations (corresponding to ~775.000 years by man) to grow/survive in a environment with citric acid . This feature is typical of other species of bacteria, e.g. Salmonella, but cannot really be considered as a new specie, but rather a new race with a serious criteria of definition of specie (please refer to precedent section). Conclusion: the E. coli experiment only proofs the existence of mutations, but not a serious new specie, even by mutant microbes and that for a period of more than 60.000 generations, enough for man to evolve of specie several times (60.000 x 25 years = 1.500.000 years!): Homo Neanderthals, Homo heidelbergensis, Homo rhodesiensis, Homo Cro Magnon...

  THE MUTANT MICROBES ARE THUS UNMASKING THE LIE OF CHANGE OF SPECIE ONLY BY NATURAL MUTATIONS, without a creator, being it a geneticist or God...

• a Scientist / Genetics Engineer can already assemble a Synthetic Virus, in a relatively small Period of Time... With a intelligent creator (or hybridization), it goes quickly... even if it Takes some Years to Create a (synthetic) Specie, it won't take, for sure, those millions of years (needed for Darwinist Evolution), with an intelligent Geneticist / Creator...

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• an evolutionist can not make evolve a common ancestor of the man (e.g. Australopithecus) into an homo sapiens sapiens in a hazardous, continuous and natural way. The usual answer is : "this process takes millions of years". But in that case, they can not proof; instead, it is a kind of believe without proofs: a kind of pseudo-scientific religion…
• Concerning the dating of the Holy Shroud of Turin: there are 2 different versions: one which says that it is a copy of the middle ages, another which says it is indeed the authentic, from the time of the crucifixion of the Lord... We are not even able to date with precision the Holy Shroud, how can we believe in scientific dates before the Flood (about 2300 before Christ)? Please note that after the Flood there are written registers, and we are able to date some events ( year 30 after the begin of of the reign of King David etc...). According to a message from Jesus over the Holy Shroud of Turin in French, in www.apparitionsmariales.org, if it is authentic, the Holy Shroud of Turin should be authentic one. However, according to other sources, it seems that it was a middle age copy which was "dated" instead. Even so, these datations have no rigor and precision concerning this Middle Age copy: it would be dated between 1260 and 1390 AD. 130 years is nothing??? Please switch on your tv and wait up to 130 years to see the news from... today... it is a lot of time, isn't it?
• mutations can happen really quickly: no need to wait million of years to see the results/changes: a cancer is a mutation and in Hiroshima and Chernobyl nobody changed of specie, even under exposition to strong radioactivity...)
• Genetics already say that the mankind derives from a common root: an Adam and an Eve (please refer to humanmigration)
• Dates from Genetics (~65.000 for "Adam" and ~140.000 Years for Genetical "Eve") contradict those of Fossils (~40.000 Years) for the first modern Man (Homo Sapiens) (please refer again to humanmigration). Even if Evil Forces "impose" a "coherence" of Dates from the different Scientific Branches... that changes nothing... those dates are only "theoretical" numbers... Math models... and not proofs... no link with reality is possible to proof for the far past...

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• the chemical composition of the dust and the man is the same: just to remember, the man, when he dies, he becomes again dust (fertile ground)...
• studying the fossils of the hominids, we conclude that are broken links that cause problems to the continuous evolution theory. If, indeed, God created the different species in 6 days, one after the other, (at least some of) these missing fossils will never appear, simply because they do not exist.
• we have already evidences of creationism: geneticists are already able to create synthetic virus and synthetic bacteria. What about Darwinism? Not even one case of creating a living being from void... we have to wait "millions of years": I know I'll become "superman", but you'll have to wait million of years, because the mutations go very "slow"...
• The couple of the 2 different species originate normally a sterile animal. Ex. Mule.
• Assume that the evolutionist theory was "true": with the same reasoning, I know that I will become a "superman with X ray vision and natural blue hair and skin", but only within "millions of years", because mutations in the nature go very "slow" (we have the cancers to show that that is false...)

Darwinism and Homosexuality

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According to the evolutionist theories, the being livings shall adapt themselves to survive and guarantee the continuation of the specie… logically, after a period of natural selection, the strongest ones have survived and are better adapted to promote the continuation of the specie… so, the hetero attractions by humans, should become stronger and stronger and homosexual tendencies should almost disappear… but since the years 1950, the homo tendencies and attractions increased enormously, making the persons having these kind of symptoms less adapted to natural reproduction… a flagrant contradiction with the evolutionist theory? Yes, sure: that’s why this kind of ideas didn’t come out to the public: they are completely incoherent with reality and the wrong reasoning is immediately noticeable…

Creationism and Evolutionism are Incompatible

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The Saints and prophets of the Bible and the Virgin Mary during her apparitions keep saying that Adam was the first man, created by God. If the first modern man (Adam) had a biological father, as believe the evolutionists, then we shall ask: "who was the first (modern) man, Adam or his biological father?". This ambiguity contradicts clearly what is stated in the Bible. And because the Saints and Prophets of God shall say the truth, I rather prefer to believe in them than in a science that didn't reach yet the maturity in this domain.

Incoherence in Scientific Dates

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If we compare dates related to the first man/woman over Earth taking 2 different methods, fossils and genetics, we conclude that the dates are not coherent with each other. According to fossils studies, the man of Cro Magnon exist since ~43.000 years, but according to genetics, the modern man exist since 60.000 years and the modern woman since 140.000 years. Old dates are not proofs (we have no referential to compare), but the minimum required is that they must be coherent with each other, using all methods, including the Bible. The truth is one, it is not possible to have different dates for the same event.

What Jesus Says

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According to His comments over the hominids (in French), Jesus explains how the Hominids appeared on Earth. The idea is that the descendants of Cain, seduced by the evil, had sexual rapports with animals, thus originating these intermediate species, the hominids (note: this process of mix of species is however unusual). After some time, this contamination spread all over the inhabited earth, being almost all humans mixed with animals (bestiality), thus hominids. God, fed up with this disgusting situation, sent the flood, extinguishing thus the preceding "mankind". The skeletons of the hominids found by scientists are thus the skeletons of this pre-flood "human beings".

Explanation: LIGER's Parallel. Hominids Not in Ark

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some genetics/hereditary knowledge. Still to be improved.

NR OF CHROMOSOMES: MAN - 46

APES/GORILLAS family ETC -48

cross with man difficult: paralell with Mule: fertility difficult...

ALL OTHER HOMINIDS: PROBABLY ALSO 46!

PARALLEL, thus, with LIGER (38 chromosomes)! tiger(38) +lion(38) =>liger (38)

When the number of chromosomes is the same, it becomes a lot easier, inter cross of near species!

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WITH MULES REPRODUCTION IS DIFFICULT!

64 (horse)+62(donkey) ->63 chromosomes (mule)

That's why such hybridizations man(46) + monkey family (48) don't happen anymore after the flood!

Hominids didn't come in the ark, because the scenario would had big chances to repeat afterwards (evil remains strong...) With apes family, small danger: similarities with hinny/mule or diseases like Down Syndrome...

THE SAD STORY OF HOMINIDS COULD HAVE BEGAN, some ~6000 years ago, WITH A SEXUAL INTER COURSE style:

MAN(46 chromosomes) + AUSTRALOPITHECUS(46 chromosomes) -> HOMO erectus (46 chromosomes)

AFTERWARDS HYBRIDIZATION COULD FOLLOW IN THE LIGER STYLE, appearing children of related species, tigers, lions, ligers, liligers, litigers etc.

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hominides Ligers parallel some documentation:

http://www.ligerworld.com/genetic-composition-of-ligers.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger#Fertility

http://alchemipedia.blogspot.be/2009/10/chromosome-numbers-for-living-organisms.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule#Fertility

en.wikipediaorg/wiki/Hinny

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20151217044051AA5InFl

http://biologos.org/blogs/dennis-venema-letters-to-the-duchess/denisovans-humans-and-the-chromosome-2-fusion

MISTERY IS SOLVED!

DATA DOESN'T MATCH 100%? First sexual intercourse was not with Australopythecus? it doesn't matter! It was then with another hominid ("common ancestor")! The idea is there AND it IS POSSIBLE AND QUICK!

NORMALLY IT HAPPENED BEFORE THE FLOOD! SUCH EXAMPLE BEING POOR, THOSE SPECIES DIDN'T COME IN ARK

Science confirms INTERMIX NEANDERTHAL with MAN indeed HAPPENED (these miserable hybridizations...), WE HAVE thus SOME RESTS...

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MONGOL DISEASE (DOWN SYNDROME)

man : 46 chromosomes

man with Down syndrome: 47 chromosomes : this mutation is not positive evolution! It's disease!!

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/10/04/couple-with-down-syndrome-is-fighting-to-have-children.html

man Down syndrome(47) + woman Down syndrome(47) cross could give children with:

46 chromosomes (normal children) + 47 chr. (children ill with Down syndrom) +48 chr. (???)

BUT HERE WE HAVE A DOWNGRADE/disease!

A 48 CHROMOSOME BABY HAS NO PARALLEL WITH APES!

DO THEY SEEM AUSTRALOPYTHECUS/ HOMO ERECTUS???

NOT AT ALL! 48 CHROMOSOMES WOULD not give apes/gorillas! Sorry!

PARALLEL RATHER WITH HINNY/MULE => TENDENCY STERILITY (disappear, through natural selection)

THIS EXPLANATION CONFIRMS RATHER WHAT JESUS SAYS. The scientific theory of chromosome fusion (48->46) to give the common ancestor... enfin! You believe in what you want: Father Christmas, Pinocchio..., that there was at 21/3/2018 a terrorist attack in NY...

Truth may be hard to believe, yes, BUT: TRUTH MUST BE COHERENT WITH REALITY!

Science Admits Hybridization with Neanderthals

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still a scientific article from PNAS (via VRT) which admits modern man inherits genes from Neanderthals.

Humans and Hominids Only ~6.000 Years Old

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Concerning dates, Jesus tells us that the mankind exists since about 6000 years ago (please refer to the link, in French: Jesus's comments over age of mankind). That means that the dating methods, although logical, rigorous and scientific, are not correct. Any how the "millions of years" are non proofed dates. Since we were not there to see, we cannot really proof it, although the dating methods seem logical: we can not go back 1 million of years, in a (reliable) time machine, in order to see if the Australopithecus was indeed there; such dating is pure speculation; a theoretical scientific non proofed number... Although logical, the dating methods must agree with reality and that is impossible to proof when concerning millions of years. Indeed, the hominids should only have ~4000 to ~6000 years. Anyhow, any scientific dating before the Flood is non proofed: pure speculation...

Another element to take into account is the world population: from 1900 to 2000, it increased about 3.5 times; in Algeria, the total population even increased 8 times during this period, which means it can easily increase or decrease 12 times, even 64 times, in a 200 years period... considering that the world population at Year 0 was 230 million people (according to statistics), we have that 6y²³= 230 millions persons, and that the mean increasing rate per century, y, equals 2.14 times per century, from the time of the Flood (~2300BC) to the Year 0, which is quite reasonable... please note that God may allow a higher reproduction rate in the beginning, in order to repopulate the earth, previously destroyed with the flood... note also that we take 6 as the sons of Noah and their wives, able to have new children... sources: see Wikipedia, world population topics and also World population from Year 0 to 1998

(4/8/2023) Why Did Bestiality Happen Between Men and Hominids?

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The Book of Enoch I explains, better than the book of Genesis, that the children of Heaven were some of the Fallen Angels (and not the children of Seth), as it seems to appear in the book of Genesis. Some of these fallen angels remained, previously, still in Heaven, but they were already Fallen Angels. They were attracted by the women of the Earth, the daughters of men. I think that these women were beautiful, maybe still with nordic look...

The fallen angels rivalized, with success, with the men of the Earth and took (several of) these women as spouses, and they could have a life in couple with these women and have children from them, the so called Giants Nephilim, I think...

There were no beautiful spouses for all men anymore, (daughters of Adam, I mean), and, as such, they had problems to marry and to begin a normal family life...

The solutions could be: to remain alone (without spouse) or to take as spouse a woman of Neanderthal or a woman of another kind of hominid, more closer to the monkey, thus, maybe in the Australopythecus style...

I think that was that what happened. That hybridization existed, but it doesn't happen in a volontary normal way...

But these fallen angels had normally no permission to make couple with the women on Earth. These women should be destinated to the men of the Earth and not to the (fallen) Angels, according to the will of God...

These angels were already fallen, but still in heaven in the beginning, and wanted to have a life in couple and found a family with the (beautiful, I think) daughters of men. They had not the right to do that, normally, but the truth it seems to be that they were in conditions to replace the men, with success, as husbands for those women.

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Those angels have often a male behaviour, and can have also a physical body (of man), if they want...

I think that those fallen anges were superior to existing men, in several domains: they had a physical body more perfect and developped, thus, superior to those of the existing men. Normally, they were also more intelligent and ruse than humans, I think, and, thus, they were found more interesting for the daughters of men...

As result, more and more hominids, but also giants, appeared on Earth, before the great Flood. Some strong attractions between men and hominids could also have existed. The book of Enoch I explains a bit of this...

Those couples between women and Fallen Angels caused much damage to the human race, and, as such, such Fallen Angels and their spouses were severely punished. The Flood came also to finish with this...

Those Fallen Angels were put in Hell and their (beautiful) spouses, as punishment, became mermaids...

To become mermaid was also a severe punishment, because, they could not walk normally anymore, they could not buy things correctly anymore, they couldn't have sex anymore, etc., and, as such, they didn't interest afterwards the men anymore (as previously)... I think they're set in the sea, where they could better walk (swim), but they had troubles to eat or to find food... the book of Enoch I explains some of this...

I think they could survive despite that, and that many resisted the Great Flood with success... possibly, when they saw a ship, they began to sing, in order to attract the attentions, in order to ask for (better) food... eventually they could have lived for long time, and a few of them maybe could have survived until the late middle ages, I think...

During ~34.000 Years, the Modern (Intelligent) Man Was Really "Stupid"... an Evident Contradiction...

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If the modern intelligent man existed since, for example, ~43.000 years ago, as some scientists do make believe, it would be strange that for such a long period, humans didn't multiply themselves, neither developed intelligent civilizations, because they were already very intelligent, able to do university studies like us... even if men didn't get an advanced health system for about 4.000 years ago (from the flood), it developed immediately (since the flood period) very brilliant civilizations (China, India, Middle East etc.). So, no reason for the modern man not to develop brilliant civilizations since 42.000 years ago and advanced health systems since 35.000 years ago, what would make the population growth explosive since then...

Modern "intelligent" man remained in caves during thousand and thousand of years: the first cities appeared, even taking into account the scientific (not reliable) dating, about 10.000 years ago... During 40.000 years, they were not able to build basic houses in rock or in wood? Really not? Intelligent man, like "Robinson Crusoe" and "Tarzan" can do that immediately... Note: after Adam, 6.000 years ago, the first cities and urban life appeared immediately... not to speak again about the big civilizations that developed immediately after the flood...

Modern "intelligent" man took thousands of years to move from one continent to another... But the descendants of Noah took a few centuries (about 500 years, but not 30.000 years, of course) to populate the whole earth. With ships and horses we can travel all over the world in less than 5 years... Modern man can immediately build huge ships (Noah did it) and domesticate a horse: Adam, Abel and Cain were immediately farmers and shepherds... 43.000 years are not really necessary if man is really intelligent; it is not so difficult neither... With horses, we can travel 60 Km/hour (600 Km/day; 6.000 km in one month!), like the Mongols did... and the techniques used were not so advanced... to go to America from Asia, it suffices to cross the Bering Strait during summer time, or to go calmly with ships through the Pacific islands... 5 years are enough... thousands of years are not required, even if people doesn't possess advanced knowledge...

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Modern "intelligent" man took ~ 33.000 years to start agriculture and cattle raising... But Adam, Abel and Cain did it immediately... Our scientific dated modern homo sapiens was so "stupid", during "thousands of years", isn't it? Do you really still believe in these scientific logic and credible, but false, science fiction fables for adults? Just some more arguments: it is not required to wait 33.000 years to a climate change to start agriculture and raise of cattle... The borders of the ice were in northern Germany? Didn't man appear first in Africa, according to the science? Modern man couldn't do agriculture in the Netherlands, it was too cold, OK... but it could do it in Africa, having North Africa a temperate climate like that of France today, and thus propitious to agriculture... The temperature changed about 9°C and all the vegetation changed? It is not so evident, neither... In Belgium, there are summers with highest temperatures of 35-39°C temperatures during several days/weeks... in other summers, the maxima may not exceed 25°C (sometimes the higher temperatures don't exceed 16°C, even in summer time...) and all vegetation and animals don't need to die or to be replaced... yes, they do resist... such a change of temperatures doesn't need to create immediately a revolution... the nature doesn't have to disappear; yes, changes may occur, but gradually... long dry periods are much more dramatic, but if the rain comes back, the nature react immediately (see the cases of rain in deserts...).

So, no excuse to man not to start agriculture ~43.000 years ago, specially if he comes from Africa.

The Neolithic Period (19/8/2023)

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Anyhow, the "Neolithic period" shows it: the agriculture started in the Middle East (the place of Adam and Noah, of course, discarding dates...) and not in Germany, despite the melting of the ices... anyhow, the weather in Mesopotamia and Egypt was already a lot milder, with or without the ice ages.

The problem: before the melting of the ices, we could assume a mild climate in Africa/Yemen, and a climate like those in Greece today in Egypt and South Mesopotamia of the time. France and Netherlands are really strong agricultural lands today, and that means that if Egypt and South Mesopotamia had already Climates like those of Spain today, a melt of the ices was not really necessary to trigger agriculture in those regions.

Worse, after the melting of the ices, the climate became a lot warmer in those regions of Middle East, even too hot and desert (~50°C near Kuwait), thus, agriculture is still possible there, but they do not have anymore mild climates like those of France. This means, that Neolithic should be necessary to trigger agriculture in regions like France but not to trigger it in regions like Middle East.

Conclusion: This climate change in the Neolithic period was thus completely superfluous to trigger agriculture and sedentarization in the Middle East region, sorry...

A more accurate analysis over this Neolithic Period, is available in the section 'What About the Neolithic', in the chapter 'Bible and Science'.

Cross Darwinist/Creationist Theories with a Serious Map from ~2000 BC + Genetics Migration Map

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The Big Flood seemed to happen ~2300 BC. Before that time, dates are not reliable anymore, if we exclude the serious but unfortunately non proofed texts from the people of God, the biblic texts (Genesis). That means, that at that time we had ~8 persons... the Earth was empty (again)!!!

Please WATCH OUT: EVIL FORCES INTIMIDATE AND WANT TO CONFUSE, TO HIDE THE EXISTENCE OF THE GREAT NOAH's FLOOD. MORE SERIOUS MAPS ARE MIXED WITH OTHER MORE CONFUSING AND DATES BEFORE ~2200 BC ARE NOT RELIABLE ANYMORE.

IF YOU WATCH OUT, YOU SHALL REMARK THAT BEFORE 2200 BC, THE WORLD WAS VERY "STATIC" (of course, these periods of time refer to before the Great Flood (thus, the "Australopithecus" period), but there's a trial to "smooth" the historical maps from ~2200BC, while "hiding" the Great Flood...). Such maps, may however, give a good historical description over the situation after the Great Flood, if we discard date "accuracy"...

What happened afterwards?

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Please read the book of Genesis and cross it with serious historic maps from the centuries which followed... we (still) find serious maps in the internet or (old) books of Universal History which shows the truth, without artificial colorations of nobody lands as great artificial great empires with (e.g., ~10.000 nomads spending their summer time in colder regions)...

... like this map from the (almost empty) World at 1500 BC, about 800 years after the great Flood...

...or this map, which reflects good the situation a few centuries immediatly after the big Flood (and Babel dispersion)... (I think it goes about 2000-2200BC and not 2500BC, but it's more or less OK)

We can have an 1st idea of the world migrations, e.g. to America or to China, regarding a map related world's genetics, over migrations Y haplogroups.

Such migrations should have happened after the great Flood, since the hominids died with the Flood. A Cross check from this map with Ezekiel 38 table of nations with His tory deserve to be done. Such table exists at chapter Apocalypse in order to try to understand better the past present and also future (=> Ez 38 and 39 prophecies).

Note that these maps are not perfect, e. g., concerning dates or demography, but give already a reasonable idea... let's us see how long these links remain accurate... Of course, there some other peoples, in Europe, even America, but they're not so numerous, they're somewhat dispersed and nomads...

Please note that all population statistics before the time of Jesus are not reliable anymore... Why? although in the Middle Ages, population could be ~stable, because of great mortality (wars, diseases...), even so, great changes in world population could occur, like that of the Great Plague in ~1348 DC... where a significant part (1/3?) of the world population died...

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Another example: the Nordic Germanic people (trace seems to give: Noah->Tyras->Thracians->Germanic norse Y Haplogroup I) from the island from Gotland (present Sweden) were so many ~2000 years ago, that they should depart. "Guta Saga" seems to explain this, telling they were at origin of people of Goths which moved to South Europe, Italy, Spain,... and reign there for a time after the Roman period... this is possible, even without modern medicines... the climate in such islands is more moderate than in continental Scandinavia, thus better to live... but with time, since Continental Scandinavia is much bigger, a small limited island like Gotland looses progressively demographic power compared to continental Sweden, while the relatively excessive population from Gotland should depart...

Thus, after the Big Flood, in the begin, the Noah descendants concentrated in the Middle East area, but after the confusion of Babel/Babylon (present Iraq), people spread all over the world, to the most interesting regions for them at the time... According to the Genesis, there was a kind of division of the whole world (heritage)... It seems they were already very intelligent at the time, although with less knowledge than today, and evil was already present...

IT WORTHS TO READ "THE DIVISION OF THE EARTH" (at the time of Peleg =>AKKAD Babel) from "A Biblical and Theological Dictionary: Explanatory of the History..." by Richard Watson, Gratis Ebooks Google. THEY HELP TO UNDERSTAND SOME ARROWS FROM THE Y HAPLOGROUP GENETIC MIGRATION MAP (=> take it as "after Noah" and ignore for the moment the "African Adam" arrows).. More details also at chapter Apocalypse, table of nations, History and Genetics, trying to understand future, prophecy Ezekiel 38 and 39, since the times of Noah.

Possible Origin of European, Turkish and Ethiopian people's (updated: 24.2.2021)

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Crossing the Bible, the messages from Heaven and the Historical Atlas, I may conclude that several IndoEuropean Peoples moved towards Russia (even up to eastern Asia) before arriving in Europe, Latins/Greek family to Mediterranean, German/Slavic/Turk/Celt families to their initial corresponding regions (Denmark, Ukraine/Poland, Central Asia/China, Europe), the Cushites/Ethiopians/Sudanese family chose initially the best climate lands of Africa (Ethiopian Mountains, of course, where there's rain and spring temperatures the whole year, under normal circumstances). IN ORDER TO KEEP BIO DIVERSITY ALIVE THEY SHOULD DEPART QUICKLY TO SOME TROPICAL AND OR COLD REGIONS. IN THE REGION ARARAT WE HAVE ALMOST ALL TEMPERATURES, BUT SOME SHOULD GO DOWN QUICKLY UP TO EGYPT NILE eventually YEMEN / Sheba IN ORDER TO LET TROPICAL BIODIVERSITY SURVIVE the cold of the winter. Naturally Ethiopians who moved south could try to chose the best climate of the region, the Ethiopian mountains, when there's no war, famine, droughts...

First Chinese + Indian seemed to arrive in the region (partially) by sea, with Phoenician/Noah Technology

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The best is to see the Y Haplogroup migration map + cross History maps since 2000 BC. Crossing Genetics with Descendency of Noah is maybe harder, haplogroup C seems to be mix of three races. There's a Canaan Sinite possibility, but now I think also in a Scythian Mongol Magog mix with others e. g. afro and white... C Haplogroup could evolve into D more slit eyes into Q into N (more nordic Eskimo up to Scandinavian Finnish). A group proto chinese seems to move to Yellow river from present day Bangladesh, but other routes happened also, regarding the Y Haplogroup migration map... Historic maps doesn't contradict this...

With this kind of reasoning and comparing the people's demography evolution in America in the last 500 years, we may conclude that the Indians/Pakistanis arrived in the region by sea, old Mohenjo Daro civilization eventually initially African Cush inheritance => several Indians dark skinned, and I conclude that they could come from the Middle East, where everything (re)started. It is also interesting to cross with Y Haplogroup migration maps, ignoring for the moment the African Adam arrows.

There's a Sinite Canaan Phoenician possibility for China: From Middle East, Desert of Sin, Sinai, depart to China -> Sina... land of the Sinite? But now I think they got the slit eyes from Magog via Mongol Turk Finn Eskimo white yellow Scythes, mixed a bit with Africans (Sinite? Canaan is descendant from Ham as afro Cush), present from Hindu Kush Mohenjo Daro India Pakisthan Sindia and spreading also across South Asia and Pacific

We can have an idea of the world migrations, e. g. to America or to China, regarding a map related world's genetics, over migrations Y haplogroups. Fake dates or fake theories 1st man come from central Africa shall be discarded, but the rest in principle is Ok. We can notice first migrations after the great Flood, through America, via strait Bering and other, arrival to China via south Asia coast up to Bangladesh etc, the DNA correlation between Basks Aquitaine and Indians near Quebec, possibly related with Atlantis... we find texts in the internet mentioning the possibility Noah departed to China and became 1st Chinese emperor, maybe with the Sinnites (descendants of Canaan)... I think they knew the world's geography from the antediluvian period. Ship technology was already available (Noah's ark + possible replications)...

Again a map showing that the first Chinese (and Indian) peoples moved along the coast of South Asia, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh, eventually also by sea with the great Phoenician Noah sailor technology (or similar), . Proto chinese could move to present BanglaDesh, arriving afterwards, (by foot horse etc) to the Yellow river, China, where the first Chinese settled and afterwards controlled the whole region (expelling the (weaker) Turkish/Mongol/Persian Scythian Hunnic Magogian & other nomads of the time to the "fantastic" Siberian (-45°C) regions, like present day Mongolia).

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This map shows a part of the maritime path from Yemen to Bangladesh: the first chinese could have reached the Yellow/Huang river from Bangladesh, and moved upwards by foot, settling along the Yellow river, near the coast... . THE MAP SUGGESTS 1st CHINESE CAME FROM CONTINENT AND NOT DIRECTLY FROM PACIFIC OCEAN (Beijing coasts).

This a possibility confirmed by Y Haplogroups migrations map, for the case of the begin of the Chinese civilization, ~2000 BC, . Cross checks recommended, because Y HAPLOGROUP MIGRATION & other MAPS may contain errors: after the Flood and even at the time of Adam, the origin of modern man is NOT Cameroon / Africa... we must, thus, be careful... the model of colonizations of the Nile, Indo, Mesopotamia suggest first colonizations came from the sea /coast and developped along the rivers Mississipi and Amazonas (?)... it seems to me, thus, less probable...

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After the Flood, civilization began in the Middle East (Noah's ark at Ararat Mount, Turkey + first Mesopotamian civilizations), and at the time of Adam, civilization began also in the Middle East region, according to the Bible... Africa may be a reference for the fossils of the style Australopithecus... or was colonized afterwards...

The four Oldest civilizations after the Noah's Flood settled along the Rivers...

Still a map showing the begin of the Chinese civilization...

There are some historical references, which "still agrees" with the book of Genesis, for the period after the Great Flood, when things "began to happen" Begin of Chinese Civilization, ~2000 BC at the Yellow/Huang River. The Flood is not mentioned in the text, but the begin of Chinese civilization, matches with the Genesis text... (the rest must be deduced...)

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This map shows first Indian civilization could have began, from the sea, developping along the Indus river/valley: Mohenjo-daro (area of present day Pakisthan/India).

What about the Precolombian original peoples?

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...with the same kind of ship technology, the peoples settled in Asia/Pacific region would have no problems to arrive to America, through the Bering Strait, or the Pacific islands... please note that, although through the world history maps, a colonization of rivers, in the Chinese /Indian /Amazon /Mississipi style does not appear. Possibly it didn't happen. However, ethnically, they seem to be close to the Asia/Pacific region.

Crossing History maps with the Y Haplogroup migration map, shows an important migration via Bering Strait, with a mix of three races (afro east asiatic white), while the Q C siberian haplogroups could also be linked with the Magogian Scythians (Magog -> proto asiatic Mongol + euroasiatic Scythian?). Another migration happened from Indonesia region to the polineasian pacific islands and could eventually reach South America?

Phoenicians navigating around Africa at 1000BC? The Ships of Tarshish.

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The Canaanites/Phoenicians seemed to be champions of navigation at the time. The best theory over the Ships of Tarshish (Greek/Roman Family, Gibraltar region), makes believe that the Phoenicians departed from the Sinai peninsula, present Egypt, could get get merchandises from India, Persia and China at the region of Sheba / Middle East / Yemen, cross all Africa, and at the coast of region of South of Spain, they got (also) the merchandises from Atlantic Europe, up the the proto germanic regions Denmark / Sweden, before giving them to the great King Solomon, 3 years later...

Naturally, the Ships departed also in the opposite direction. In the beginning, the Lost Continent of Lemuria was still there, and merchandises from Lemuria, East Asia were got also at Madagascar. But a bit later, with the Fall of Lemuria, most of that trade from Madagascar stopped...

Thus, old peoples seemed already very intelligent, they could build already great architectonic buildings at the time, like the big Babylonian Babel tower and the pyramids, although evil was already strong and they had less knowledge than in the present "normal-style" (apocalyptic) times of great sin and knowledge...

How to Unmask Cameroon afro Genetic Adam Fake?(21/9/2023)

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No to Genetic Cameroon Adam. Instead, African Cushites Seemed to Flee Muslim Terror, direction West and South, but They Seemed also To Go to the West Subsaharian African Coasts, with the Ancient Phoeniciens, in the Ships of Tarshish.

CROSS CHECK WORLD HISTORY MAPS FOR AFRICA SINCE 2000 BC.

IN THE BEGINNING AFRICA WAS ALMOST EMPTY. Angry NIMROD + AKKAD CUSH TOOK WORLD LEADERSHIP FOR A WHILE, BUT AT TIME OF ABRAHAM, CUSH was already loosing wars, and AGAR seemed to be A WAR SLAVE PRINCESS FROM EGYPT offered to help Abraham (=> please cross check other references internet wikipedia etc). CUSH should MOVE NILE DOWN near OLD EGYPT, but they had also property in Sindia Pakistan up to Hindu Cush mountains. Dravidian Elamite language Semitic cushite moves to South India (India Pakistan inheritance of Cush division of earth of Babel Peleg).

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IT WAS IN THE LAST 1000 YEARS THAT THE POPULATION OF AFRICA GREW THE MOST. WHY? WE CAN SEE HOW THE AFRICAN KINGDOMS DEVELOP ALONG HISTORY AND MOST SIGNIFICANT EVENTS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 1000 YEARS. NATURALLY CUSH WANTS TO STAY IN THE GOOD CLIMATES OF THE RAINY MOUNTAINS OF ETHIOPIA or along the Nile near Egypt. BUT ISMAEL DOES NOT HELP WITH THE ISLAMIC SECT AND TERROR against non Muslims and Afro Cushites. CUSH HAS NO FORCE AGAINST MUSLIMS ARABS TURKS AND OTHERS AND HAVE TO FLEE TO SOUTH AND WEST AFRICA AND USE FREE MASON PHARAOH WITCHCRAFT AND wild BRUTALITY TO SCARE MUSLIMs incursions or boats FROM THE COAST... AND WHY?

ORTHODOX ETHIOPIANS WERE SCHISMATIC AND HAVE NO FORCE IN EAST AFRICA. A NATURAL MIX AND SEMITIZATION HAPPENED IN THE EAST AND NORTH AFRO ASIATIC.

Another reason for this mix in East Africa is that, Ofir, initially present in Somalia, was a Semit, son of Joktan, son of Sem. Thus, some mixing should have happened since the beginning in Eastern Africa.

With Muslim incursions and their Trade AFRO CUSHITES risked:

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castration => genocide trial => often it finishes in ... death of the victim

excision => castration genocide trial but it doesn't work

slavery => slave market of Tripoli, of Istanbul, eunuch of the sultan...

islamization terror... better to accept the sect than to die, castration slavery etc

MUSLIMS DID NOT WANT CUSH POPULATION GROWING BUT AT the SAME TIME they WANTED MANY BLACK SLAVES TO HELP in hard or undesired work. THEY WERE NOT THE ONLY ONES TO WANT BLACK SLAVES for cheap work, but Christians were less aggressive: no castrations etc. FORTUNATELY such SLAVERY IS ENDED in the West.

On the other hand, some Cushites Natives departed with the Ancient Phoeniciens in the Ships of Tarshish, from the sides of the ancient known world (Etiopia Somalia etc), from the Sinai or Nile, direction Gilbraltar, direction West, until they arrive to the non desertic regions of West Africa, after the lands of the Berbers / Havilah, where some settled. World History Maps tend to confirm this. This should explain the reverse migrations arrows coming from the West Subsaharian Coasts. But this does not mean a genetical Afro Kameroun Adam neither...

In this way, we can explain that THE MOST PURE CUSHITES ARE FOUND IN ATLANTIC AFRICA CENTRAL AND SOUTH, HAPLO GROUPS A and B, WHILE IN ETHIOPIA THEY USE BOTH SEMITIC AND CUSHITE LANGUAGES. In Eastern Africa they're are also more mixed...

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NO, AFRO CUSHITES DIDNOT LOVE so MUCH THE HOT TEMPERATURES, THE JUNGLE, THE SAVANNA, THE LION, THE VIPER AND THE CROCODILE... NEITHER TO PLAY the role "brutal wild cannibal" or use Old Egyptian Freemason African Sorcery renamed Vodu... THEY WOULD BE BETTER IN THE FRESH RAINY CLIMATE or near the great powers (Old Egypt, Nile river), but population began to grew despite agression and, in order to keep freedoms, the safest would be to flee to West and South despite the high temperatures or the jungle... Still 120 years ago a violent war between true faith catholic conservative Belgium and Arab terror militias permitted to Congo to resist Islamic terror for some extra 100 years... Europeans profited from Africa and from the Africans also, but there was less terror and more true religion when compared to Muslims... Black Africa found some hope against Muslim terror in the last 5 centuries, after the demands of orthodox Christians Ethiopians(from the "land of Priest John"=> Ethiopia) to Europe (e.g to the Portuguese) to save black Africa from forced slavery and islamization... by the 1400s... but now those dangers may restart again => Islamic State etc... are Christians prepared to counter evil advances? It all restarts again... and not only in Africa...=> daily rosaries welcome (naming Mary 'empress' begin end rosary...)

WHY DID SHIPS OF Tarshish ACROSS AFRICA STOPPED? DO YOU WANT TO FINISH IN MARKET OF SLAVES OF MARRAKESH etc? Me neither!

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each nation its wounds, says the Bible...

Indeed, East AFRICA WAS UNDER some MUSLIM CONTROL/Trade FOR SEVERAL CENTURIES. A TRADE ALONG EAST AFRICA UP TO INDONESIA TOOK PLACE. SOMALIA WAS TOO NEAR FROM ARABIA AND THE EASIEST WAS TO BECOME MUSLIM, eventually terrorize other cushites, in order to avoid further troubles... Islamization went down along the coast up to Mozambique... but South Mozambique was already relatively far from Arabia, and further South along East African coast, Muslims were not numerous enough... Cushites could there resist, use some brutality to scare, and Muslim ships didn't go further down up to South African coast... this was probably what happened... before the European colonization... a cross check historic maps + Y Haplogroups makes think this...

The genetical mix of East Africa, namely Madagascar, may be explained also, taking into account another factor: the lost continent of Lemuria, containing population genetically close of that of present day Indonesia, which could have migrated (from South India to Indonesia and) to the Eastern coast of present "black" Africa, namely Madagascar, more than 3.000 years ago, I think...

Serious Historical maps of ~2000BC - ~1500 BC help to unmask Darwinist lies

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Although not proofed, the original native ethnical peoples and the serious maps from World at the period after the Flood seem only to confirm this theory (Chinese/Indian people's settling along the rivers, from the coast to the interior...) and to unmask Darwinism as a lie, because the world was almost empty, in 2000 BC.

Once again, serious Historic maps still exist, but watch out, the forces of Evil are active in discrete censorship of the truth and creation of confusion with alternative pseudo-scientific theories, when possible.

Please don't forget that all maps before 2300 BC and population estimates before 0 DC are not reliable anymore... Do you really believe in the tale of the "eternal small population of ~300.000 inhabitants, idiots, and statics", during ~30.000 years??? The Jewish multiply by ~10.000 in only 4 centuries in Old Egypt (and the Algerians by 8 in the last century, under agressive conditions)... it is not always like that, but...

Example of a confusing map from 2000 BC

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We can detect the confusion, because the great empires controlling aggressive regions of the planet are always suspect; most of Siberia and Sahara, Antartica, Greenland, Australia... are no man's land and a country which controls these regions is not necessarily a big world power... take as example present-day Denmark...

4.000 years ago, these regions with aggressive climate were mainly inhabited by some nomads (some thousands, maybe...), if we exclude one or another agglommerate of reference...

Indeed, the center of the world of time was concentrated in the Middle East; the big powers of the time were (Masonic/Illuminati) Ancient Egypt and the Mesopotamian Idolatrous great powers... the others began to spread all over the world...

Thus, this world map of 2000 BC, although possibly true, is also quite confusing, because it doesn't reflect the demography and centers of power of the time.... Please note however that this map is however very interesting for this pedagogic purpose...

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If we don't pay attention in some details, we may indeed get confused, making believe that the Darwinist tales are "coherent" and that the big Flood never existed...

I may conclude, thus, that no important climate changes have happened in the North Africa and Middle East regions in the last 4.000 years. Although we can not take the dates before the Flood seriously, this link confirms also that the Sahara region was already desert 4000 years ago, thus... no serious climate change in these regions since then...

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Thus, this dark pink "great empire" controlling the deserts of Sahara and Arabia it is not really the same as the great Arab Muslim empire of the Middle Ages (in green). The differences are "subtle", but we can notice it.

The Arab empire controlled important demographic regions (some with important rivers) in the Middle East, Asia, Spain... Some important cities are already mentioned. It is a subtle, but important difference between the 2 "empires"...

...because the pink "empire" of 2000 BC controlled... deserts and mainly NOT inhabited regions... The map (implicitly) confirms it... these great dark pink area's were inhabited only by (probably some thousands of) nomads... the "Saharan and Arabian pastoral Nomads"...

in order to have clear ideas and a good referential, please compare with this COMPLETELY SERIOUS HISTORICAL MAP (NOT YET UNDER ATTACK) FROM 1453AD Because there was still a lot of territory scarcely inhabited, 500 years ago ... (or inhabitated only by dispersed, not numerous nomads)... thus...

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I think this now is evident... returning back to the confusing but interesting full colored historical map from 2000 BC, please don't forget the true Arabians are the son's of Ismael, son of Abraham... possibly, Ismael was not father yet... little "contradictions", but OK, normally there was somebody there in the Arabian desert regions...

For the big Siberian, Canadian and other "anonymous empires" of the time, we can take the same kind of conclusions...

... but, without these considerations, we could easily get "confused", thinking they could be of the same kind as the great Mongol or Russian empires... that's why the first historical maps presented here are far more serious and reflect better the History of the time and the reality...

and also confirm implicitly an existence of a big Flood and the truth of the first chapters of the book of Genesis...

... they contradict implicitly also, the conclusions of the false pseudo-scientific doctrines of "Darwinist style"... because the implicit reality leads spontaneously to the truths of the Bible...

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sophisticated lies can indeed confuse, but they can also in these ways be unmasked... e.g., the world at ~2000 BC was not (almost) full, it was (almost) empty!!!

WATCH OUT: FORCES OF EVIL INTIMIDATE, AND GOOD HISTORICAL MAPS MAY BE DIFFICULT TO ACCESS!!! PLEASE CROSS IT, IF POSSIBLE, WITH 2nd HAND BOOKS FROM SOME YEARS AGO, with HISTORICAL MAPS (because the evil forces pressure was smaller, some years ago... censure and confusion are increasing... we should not be "ingenuous")

What about World Maps before ~2000 BC?

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If we search in the internet, we have, e.g., a full ambiguous map over Middle East between 4000 and 1000 BC. Indeed, if we discard dating considerations, it should match with the ancient times, after the Great Flood... Describing a "3000 year-period" in a single map (from 4000BC to 1000BC), some ambiguity and "lack of dynamism" are evident, but the map seems correct...

We can find, of course, "full colored maps" to "confuse", but there's still some some serious "empty maps" from the period before 2500 BC..., e.g., this map of the World at "3000BC" The dates are not that accurate, but it clearly shows that the earth was almost empty in the period around 2200 BC... similar maps from the World at "4000BC", or the World at "3500BC"reflects reality also (the earth was almost empty).

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IT SEEMS, THUS, CLEAR THROUGH THESE MAPS THAT BEFORE ~2500 BC "THINGS DIDN'T HAPPEN, DURING CENTURIES AND CENTURIES AND CENTURIES"... AFTERWARDS, instead, THINGS "BEGIN TO HAPPEN", to "accelerate"...

Before 4000 BC, I can not really find an world civilization map coherent, I assume that it is the antediluvian age...

We can also compare the dynamism of population evolution in Canada between ~1850 and ~2000 and "the fantastic demographic explosion" of the world population at a "very small interval of time", that between 10000BC and 3000 BC, only "very short" 7.000 years, almost "nothing" when compared with the "huge 150 years of Canada"...

... and, according to the Bible during ~400 years, the Jewish population increased a lot in Egypt: from ~20 to ~400.000 in ~400 years (an increase of x20.000 in 400 years); this phenomena is NOT thus exclusive from modern times...

still another example: The whole World took ~8.000 years (alternative: ~6000 years) to evolve from ~4 million people at 10000 BC to ~30 million people at 2000 BC (alternative: 4000 BC), but the American continent "only" needed about ~1300 years to perform the same evolution (from ~0 AD to ~1300 AD)... (if we don't want to speak over the rapid increase of Israel/Canada etc). THINGS "DIDN'T REALLY HAPPENED" BEFORE THE NOAH's FLOOD...

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Sorry, these data before 2000 BC doesn't match the Bible and seem "artificial" in order to keep some fictive coherence with other artificial theories/lies...

Compare also with Americas before 1520 AD, at ~1550 AD and 1700 AD, thus, before the " big world demographic explosion"...

Please note that, demographically, there was not an increase of population during that period (e.g., native population died with the new disease's of the time), rather a demographic replacement, but "things already happened"... it suffices to compare the maps...

Mesopotamia and Egypt at "3500 BC". Egypt civilization had not yet started, according to this source... if we discard dates, it seems serious to me, and doesn't contradict too much the Bible...

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Another similar map from Mesopotamia and Egypt at "3500 BC"

But curiously, according to this map, Middle East at ~"4000 BC", there was a lot more urbanism ~4000 BC, namely in Egypt: "the desert regions full inhabitated" etc... anyhow an interesting map, if we discard "dates"... it reflects more a situation around 1500 BC, I think...

In this map of Middle East ~3200BC - ~2000 BC, if we discard a possible ~700 year time error, it reflects good, the situation after the Flood: the Earth was almost empty!

This map of Mesopotamia is interesting, because it mentions the Great Flood occuring at 3000 BC (Jesus and the Bible set it between ~2500 and ~2100 BC, taking into account the messages from heaven and estimating dates with genealogies, ~2300 BC...). Discarding possible ~1500 years errors, it seems more or less OK...

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This fully colored map of Europe may be correct, but hide the fact that there was almost no urbanism in west/central/north Europe, at the time... Thus, nomadism, dispersion and scarce population are not visible in this full colored map... European Artic Russia remains today relatively scarlcely populated ... thus, 4000 years ago, this region with aggressive climate had only a few inhabitants... this kind of map doesn't show this reality clearly...

In this scientific map, we have references to human(?) migrations of more than 100.000 years ago, but please don't forget that, "~11.000 years" ago, it existed only ~"4 million" people on earth!!!

With a decreasing ratio of ~1/75 per 10.000 years (the "permanent/regular snail slow" period between 1000AD and 9000BC) , we would have than ~4 million/75= ~53.333 persons, living on earth at 19000 BC, and, thus, 4 million/(75*75) = ~711 persons living on earth at 29000 BC, thus, ~4.000.000/(75*75*75)= ~9 persons living on earth about 39000 BC (it ~matches the pseudo fossil datings, but NOT with these human migrations and neither with genetic datings, neither the Bible); about 50.000 years ago... thus, we had nobody on earth, according to this estimated model of demographic human evolution (seen before), unless the "Mathematical model" would change...

A better analysis shows that, indeed, it goes over the genetic scientific dating model, which frontal contradicts the dating fossil scientific model, but also contradicts a little bit the Bible recit of human creation, mostly in dating accuracy...

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Please WATCH OUT: THE OLD MAP INTERESTING LINKS MAY DISAPPEAR (we know "why")... ANYHOW SEVERAL OF THESE MAPS SHOW THE CORRECT HISTORICAL EVOLUTION SINCE THE GREAT FLOOD, if we discard date's considerations...

ANOTHER THING WHICH BECOMES EVIDENT IS THAT REAL DYNAMISM APPEARS only AFTER 2200 BC... BUT SOME MAPS SET IT 1000 YEARS BEFORE (3200 BC in place of 2200 BC)...

BEFORE "3200 BC" (2200 BC, to be more accurate), THERE's NO REAL HISTORY, BECAUSE IT IS THE ANTEDILUVIAN PERIOD OF THE AUSTRALOPITHECUS,..., ADAM, ENOCH, Methuselah,..., NOAH (up to the Flood)... SOME MAPS REFLECT IT CLEARLY: THERE WAS AN EMPTY...

SOME OTHERS, "FULLY COLORED" HIDE the existing NOMADISM, HUMAN DISPERSION AND SCARCE POPULATION, OUTSIDE THE BIG INITIAL 4 RIVER CIVILISATIONS... Egypt, Mesopotamia, Indo river (India/Pakistan), Yellow/Huang river (China)...

Probability Math Models to Unmask Fake Hazardous Darwinist Evolutionary Dates

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Probability Math Models may help to Unmask Fake Hazardous Darwinist Evolutionary Dates, e.g. fake Million of Years. At least non proofed...

Example: the time expected to make evolve bat ancestor (~"mouse" or related...) into a bat, in order to get flying wings, without intelligent Creator, after some mutations, using probabilistic models, tends to infinite

and the probability that that happens only by hazard tends to zero, sorry...

... following explanations try to make it more clear...

Darwinists use often also math models to defend their million of years Fake dates... Using Prob Models, the dates should be much bigger, tending to infinite...

Some of this Math analysis is familiar already from end secondary students. Classical Linear Regression Principles CONTRADICT ALREADY PRINCIPLES OF BIG BANG AND DARWINISM. SUCH MODELS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO A RELIABLE RANGE OF VALUES. Asymptotic simulations possible, the possibility of introducing errors increase also...

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...WE CAN NOT EXTRAPOLATE TO MORE THAN 4.000 YEARS reason are the same as for linear regression…
out of scale + principle of composed function and unexpected changes…
bus in highway… ok for some hours…
but then has to go out…
then traffic lights and model changes…
and afterwards it may restart…

THE PROBABILITY OF MAKING EVOLVE BAT FROM ANCESTOR ONLY BY HAZARD IS SIMILAR OF THAT OF THROWING COIN CONSECUTIVELY SOME MILLIONS OF TIMES IN ORDER TO A GET SPECIFIC SEQUENCE...

e.g. assume the program to build flying bat wing requires tossing coin 1.000.000 times and we want to get always heads 1.000.000 times and 1st tails only after (easier example for this explanation), we have the chance of having 1st coin tail only after 1.000.000 times, that means,

Prob=q^1.000.000p, with p=q=1/2, that means,

the Probability that this happens is ~ (1/2)^1.000.001, which tends asymptotically very quickly to zero....(ref: geometric probabilistic distribution model, e.g., Wikipedia...)

WHAT ABOUT THE EXPECTED MEAN TIME THAT THAT HAPPENS? MUCH BIGGER THAN MILLION OF YEARS... BY HAZARD only, THINGS SIMPLY... don't happen!

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THE CHANCE WE GET 2 CONSECUTIVE TIMES HEAD AFTER TOSSING SAME COIN twice IS ONLY ¼ =25%, with a normal coin.

And thus the Prob WE GET 3 CONSECUTIVE TIMES HEAD AFTER TOSSING SAME COIN three times IS ONLY 1/8 =12,5%, with a normal coin.

The Expected nr of trials is given by the inverse of this probability.

Thus 8 consecutive sequential trials (coin tossings) on average, (not 3 or 4!) before getting 1st sequence Head Head Head, thus 2³=8...

Thus, to get 1.000.000 heads in sequence using consecutive tossings of one coin, we expect on average to perform 2^10000001 tossings, which tends to infinite as the respective probability that this happens tends to zero.

It suffices, thus,to establish the nr of tossings per minute etc to have a idea of the time.

2^1.000.001 tossings ~ 2x(2¹⁰)^x100.000~2x1000^100.000= 2x10^300.000 tossings expected in order to have such sequence/programa.

The real numbers are not so important, it's rather the idea + magnitude what's important. We can see it with following simulation:

Simulating tossing the coin ~1 time per second, ~100tossings/minute x50=> 5000 tossings/hour x20 => 100.000tossings/day x200=>~20.000.000 tossings/year...

Thus, some 20x10⁶ tossings per year. Some millions tossings more or less doesn't change the reasoning.

Since this goes nearly linear, that's why the time to execute it from hazard tends to infinite. Let us estimate grossly the time:

After 1.000.000 years, we would have tossed the coin some 20x 10^12 times, still very far from number above...

After 1 trillion = 10¹² years, we would have tossed the coin some 20x 10⁶ x 10¹² times= 20x 10¹⁸ times, more than enough to have 1.000.000 heads consecutively with smart techniques, but not enough to have it in a spontaneous hazardeous way... because we need on average 2x10^300.000 tossings, in order to get coin sequence(=program) using only pure hazard...

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Please note that some parallelism is possible, but in biologic or computer science programma's, some sequentiality does exist and can not be avoided. Such parallelism of components, in Computer Science when involving same system is often hard to implement, thus the chance that happens from hazard is thus (very) small.

TO IMPLEMENT BAT WINGS IT IS HARD WORK / CREATION, SORRY!

Because Mouse genom is 2.5 billion DNA letters long, it's reasonable to think in a DNA program of 0.1 Billion to make the (mouse or similar) bat ancestor evolve to a bat and fly.

According to sources available, e.g. annualreviews, Bats have 1 genome of average size of 2 Gb = 2x10⁹bytes= 2 billion bytes size...

It's also reasonable to think that from those 100 million DNA letters, the shortest DNA sequences to make bat fly should have ~1 million DNA letters... Tossing Reasoning explained is thus not very far from these data...

...please refer also example 2 a bit below, with probabilities more realistic and closer to those of the DNA model... Some adaptations of numbers mentioned, do not change the idea behind: the probability that that happens only per hazard evolution tends to zero and the mean time expected for such evolution to happen only by hazard tends to infinite...

... and not to forget it's impossible to proof dates from far past... more than 5.000 years ago, we believe, we have no way to proof it... we believe on it or not, but we can not proof it...

Example 2. Probs Model unmasking Fake Dates: Moving 1 Km to West without Orientation Sense

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Assume someone, attempting to move 1 km to West, hazardously, 1m/s each time in one of 4 possible basic directions North South West East. Only with hazard such walk would take trillions of years, while intelligently a normal person by foot take some 15 minutes ( in place of trillion of years, roaming without orientation feeling, trying to advance 1 km straight to West… Prob step to West is 25% (1 under 4 possible equiprobability)).

Probability of moving 2 meters hazardously to West is ¼ x ¼ = 1/16 => mean nr of trials is 16 = 4 x 4 after some 16 seconds hazardously, without orientation skills. It goes exponencial in powers of 4…

For going straight 1000 m direction W, only by hazard, this gives 4¹⁰⁰⁰ trials in average (1 trial in 1 second in this simulation…), without intelligence only hazard, some trillions of years…

In this simulation with get a probability that this happens hazardous from (1/4)¹⁰⁰⁰, thus near zero...

The average time needed, assuming it happens hazardously, at movements 1m/s in one of 4 basic directions is given by the inverse in seconds,

thus, 4¹⁰⁰⁰ seconds = 2²⁰⁰⁰ s = 2 ^10*200s = ~ 1000²⁰⁰s = ~ 10⁶⁰⁰s.

One year being 31.536.000 seconds = ~3 x 10⁷seconds, we can estimate the time needed to move 1 km according to random example mentioned above.

4¹⁰⁰⁰ seconds needed on average to move straight 1 Km West, thus,

~ 1 x 10⁶⁰⁰s / (3 x 10⁷ s.year^-1) = ~ 0.3 x 10 ^600-7 years.

3 x 10⁵⁹² years... This time is really big, it approaches infinite.

St Michael in message to Luz de Maria (sep 2020) confirms Moses Jesus the Saints that "Life is God's creation, it does NOT come from hazard".

These reasonings in this chapter try again to unmask the fake, this time using probabilistic mathematical models, to confirm what is (discreetly) known by physicians and even biologists: Systems tend naturally to disorder/entropy and mutations tend to create aberrations, thus to finish in void...

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... while small mutations Do exist(e.g. microbe level... because many many billions of microbes suffer mutations in parallel...), sophisticated creations tend not to happen without intelligent creator behind, or either the probability that that happens tend to zero, while the average time for that to happen tends to infinite...

... Science should not be set in service of evil, to confuse...

Darwinist dates to create sophisticated biology from hazard are thus too short...

Procedure should have began long before begin of (also fake) date of Bing Bang, thus long before those ~14 billions of years_lies...

probabilities models unmask the fake...

...With intelligent Creator person or God, everything goes much quicker… in example simulation 2., a normal person takes some 15 minutes by foot walking 1 km to West in straight line… those trillions and trillions of years not needed…

Prob models crunch such hazard evolution dates. it's simply not probable. It takes simply too long to happen from hazard...

But evil intimidates, yes, everybody, institutions, (prestigious or not) are a bit vulnerable, not so easy. Prestige is Not enough. Why? Simply because nobody's perfect here on earth, excellent professional, reputed or not. Point. REPUTATION EXCELLENCE PROFESSIONALISM are NOT ENOUGH TO GIVE CREDIBILITY IN SUBJECTS CONTRADICTING HOLY BIBLE OR MESSAGES FROM HEAVEN +- SERIOUS. One has to verify self what's happening: possible causes interpretations translations scientific knowledge etc . Prot ag evil from God + take cross (=difficulties) recommended, in order to try to defend good. Yes, harder...

WATCH OUT: REPUTATION PROFESSIONALISM MEANS ALSO THAT MOST OF WORK IS SERIOUS PROFESSIONAL (in domains without contradiction with the holy of God, normally work of professionals is Ok... subtle, thus!).

Let us see evolution. This web site tries to help, but some suffering I can not avoid... thus, not to be severe with people, but better not to be ingenuous neither.

Most content however in reliable institutions remains serious professional. One should watch out however when science or other prestigious institutions contradict Heaven or Bible...

Created from the Clay of the Ground

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Just to proof that man is made from the clay (dust) of the ground, just remember the after the death, the human body decomposes and becomes again ground:

"man is dirt and to the dirt he shall return (Gen 3:19)."

And according to the book of Genesis he was created by God from the clay of the ground...

With God's enormous know how and ultra sophisticated science, it is possible for God to create a human being from the clay (further details in section Miracles explained).

Just remember that miracles are rare, but they do exist: John Paul II did a proofed miracle, and, in Bruges, Belgium, in the Holy Blood chapel, there's a permanent miracle: the Holy Blood of Jesus doesn't deteriorate with time... reality may also be complex and hard to believe, isn't it?

2 Different Recites of Creation?

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It may seem that there are two different and contradictory recites of the creation in the book of Genesis, the first in Gen 1:1 up to Gen 2:4a and the second in Gen 2:4b-8. The main contradiction seems to be the creation of the plants, which God did during the third day. The recite of Gen 2:4b-8 follows:

"4b At the time when Yahweh God made earth and heaven
5 there was as yet no wild bush on the earth nor had any wild plant yet sprung up, for Yahweh God had not sent rain on the earth, nor was there any man to till the soil.
6 Instead, water flowed out of the ground and watered all the surface of the soil.
7 Yahweh God shaped man from the soil of the ground and blew the breath of life into his nostrils, and man became a living being.
8 Yahweh God planted a garden in Eden, which is in the east, and there he put the man he had fashioned."

I think both recites are compatible, but we have to interprete it carefully. Gen 2:4b-6 corresponds to Gen 1:1-11 (from the beginning up to the third day). Afterwards, there's an omission: what happened from the third day up to the sixth day; finally God created man and set it into the garden of Eden... so, no contradiction... please be careful with the translations of the bible, because some of them may lead to confusion... this translation was taken from the Bible of Jerusalem online and seems to be OK... Our Lady in New York, recommended to read bibles before 1966...

Scientifical Magazins are aware, but the Lie must Remain!

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Several prestigious international Scientific magazins, such as Nature, Scientific American, Science and even some concerned departments of some universities and institutions are aware of the lies, but the lies must remain!!!

We shall not judge them, maybe they're under blackmail of the evil forces, but we shall not be ingenuous neither... in these apocalyptic times, even with university knowledge, the confusion mixed with logical and credible lies remain and is to diffuse through prestigious entities... censure and sin are great and everything seems normal... over the censure/manipulation in the media, and cumplicities in the concerned scientific departments, we can refer to related sections from apparitions mariales and Prophecies from Heaven

What about the Origin of the Human Races?

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I believe that they are not so old, appearing after the flood, from the descendants of Noah. They have thus less than 5000 years... Believing to private messages from heaven from the French website apparitions mariales, Adam was a blond man, making thus believe that the humans before the flood were of white race (before they practiced the bestialities that generated hybrid species: hominids...).

According to the Bible, Noah had three sons:

• Japheth, the father of the Indoeuropean peoples, of white race
• Shem, the father of the semitic peoples, e.g. Arabs and Jews, also of white race
• Ham, the father of some white peoples but also of african black race peoples and Asian yellow race peoples

Indeed, from the Biblical genealogy of Ham, we learn that he is, among others, the father of:

• Canaan - old peoples of Israel and Lebanon, of white race, descended from Canaan...
• Caphtor - old balkan people who came to Palestine: the Palestiniens of today, of white race
• Cush - Ethiopia was known in the past as the land of Cush, and Cush might be the father of black race peoples of Ethiopia, South Sudan and Eritreia. Cush may even be the father from all black race african peoples...
• the Sinite, possibly the ancestor of some present day Chinese... Chinese may descend also partially from Magog note: the Sinites descend also from Canaan, son of Ham... Any how, from historical maps, old natives from India and China, seemed to come to the region by sea, to colonize some rivers of those huge lands...

How Can a Couple Have Children of Different Races?

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In opposition to the change of specie that requires the intervention of a very intelligent creator (e.g. God or a geneticist), or hybridization, the change of race happens in the nature, although being a rare phenomena. Here, the mutations can play a role...

Not long time ago, it appeared in a newspaper that an african (of black race) couple had a blond girl baby... Although rare, it happened.

Also, if you are attentive to your entourage, you may find some cases of change of (sub)races: children of the same parents, one being blond and the other of mediterranean type etc... I personally know more than one case like this...

The Witchcraft "Race" (4/9/2023)

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According to the Book of Enoch, Noah was still a nordic man, with brilliant eyes and white hair. According to the Book of Enoch, there were some 100 persons in the Ark of Noah, (thus, they were also 8, as the Bible says... plus the rest...), and the great Majority of them were still of Nordic Type, with Blond, Light Blond and Red Hair plus Blue Eyes, with a Minority having Green Eyes, Light Brown Hair. One or Another had Brown Eyes and Brown Hair, about 1 or 2 Persons, From the Near 100, which came with Noah, in the Ark. Those Persons were Descendants of Noah or Related (their Spouses).

This means that the Great Majority of the Inhabitants of the Earth should now be of Nordic Type. However, this doesn't actualy Happen. Instead, only a very small Minority has Nordic Look. How to Explain this?

What Indeed Happened is that, almost immediatly after the Great Flood, through Practices of Witchcraft, the Great Majority of the Babies Born Received Witchcraft "Brunette of Mediterrenan Type" and some Other Received, also, at the Same Time, the Withcraft "Race", with a Permanent Effect. This explains the Appearance of the Dark Skin Race of African Type, and also, but only Partially, the Effect Slit Eyes, which is typical of the Yellow Race of Oriental Type. Magog had slightly Slit Eyes but also a Typical German Look, meaning, thus, that a Part of the Effect Slit Eyes doesn't come from the Witchcraft Race Sent to the Oriental Peoples...

This section was inspired by God.

Jesus of the Divine Mercy: Those who Honor Jesus, with full trust, through this Picture (above), shall be Saved* from Hell.

Please Scroll further Down to Fully See the Summary...

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I try to pray for protection to all pro God of planet until 00:00h, to try to disinfest, but it's better to complement it with 24h protective prayer, e.g. attentive Rosary or (easier/shorter) 7 sorrows (here further below).

Summary over the Web Site

Catholic Russia Converted Ideas...

Made in Belgium, E.U.

www.christianideas.eu:

• DISCERNMENT Criteria, e.g. True Faith catho conservative non naive: risk of Sect New Age in Rome=> the Apocalypse... => better to be in state of grace go to confession to catholic priest asap, after Benedict XVI
  
  
• Risk of Great Famine => news from heaven +- serious to e.g. G Lomax, L de Maria, J Leary...
  
  Ideas (pro God) to (try) to resist Great Famine:
  - St Onofre with a Crumb of Bread,
  - Blessed grapes L Maria + S Damiano...
  
  
• MODERN LIES unmasked
  (Lies of Darwinism, Fake Dates...)
  
  History + demographics since 2000BC unmask fake dates. Hominids were hybrids which existed before great Flood, confirms Jesus at from old web site from V De Tarlé apparitionsmariales.org …
  
  Proactive Darwinism: ~mouse evolves=> bat => vampire, thus ancestor man/whale etc goes to=> Batman => Dracula... within same ~million years…
  
  
  
• Y haplogroups DNA migrations tend to proof Atlantis sank => Ice ages before Moses crossed the Red Sea? Science & Bible theory
  
  
• DANGER OF APOC after Benedict XVI => St Malachy prophecy:
  
  CHIP 666 IN BODY, WW3, risk vaccines Pest Grippe with 666 smart particles /changing DNA RNA , throw virus (by plane) to kill vaccinated, “good” apocalyptic new age sect, THE GLOBAL EMPIRE SOCIALIST COMMUNIST OF ANTICHRIST... => lots of apocalyptic prophecy at www.tldm.org (for scenario Russia not converted)
  
  
• ICON OF AUTOMATIC Eternal SALVATION
  (also here above)
  

  THOSE WHO TRUST 100% IN JESUS through THIS PICTURE SHALL BE SAVED (a Jesus of St Faustina with rays blue red)
  
  

• PROTECTIONS against EVIL, but some suffering needed, sorry!
  (a summary a bit further below)
  
  
• IMMORTALITY SUGGESTION:
  

  TO PRAY GOD for ETERNAL SALVATION for THOSE WHO NEEED IT MOST, CALMS 'only' DANGERS for LIFE.
  (you have nothing to loose, if you feel dying, even if formula is limited …
  after: begin discreet fast + daily prayer (as attentive rosary or 2 daily rosaries) until it calms/improves => ~30 days for diabetes,
  ok not so easy, but it's better than cancer operations, (1-3 days should calm grippe…))
  
  

• GLBT + Modern Sex BEHAVIOURS: Unhealthy, even KILL...
  It attracts pests…
  it’s possible to attack underconscious, e.g., via discrete sorcery… => Nero case study...
  
  
  
• ***2 BILLIONs+ MURDERS*** SINCE ~1960:
  the ABORTION horrors... It attracts pests…
  
  
  
• IDEAS AGAINST AGING & GRIPPE/PEST /Evil
  
  Dangers of Vaccins: e.g. 666 etc.
  BETTER ALTERNATIVES + Pro God: Fast & prayer (good against evil => Medjugorje) until it calms... (discreet fast & prayer or in solidarity group, prayer style (attentive daily) rosary, or daily rosary 2x, or 7 sorrows... some food may help: avoid white sugars (fruits honey better if sweet food needed), but 1/8 glass whiskey or vodka (=> let it disinfect (few minutes) at the throat…), 1/6 glass vinegar, 2 cloves raw good garlic mixed e.g. in salad to help counter pest... + immortality suggestion in dramatic cases to calm a bit and in place of dying win forces to pray an attentive rosary /7sorrows... + details links above below
  
  VACCINATED RISK TO DIE before time WITHOUT FORMULAS PRO GOD (see above; formulas from news from heaven maybe work against vaccines… Exorcism water? miraculous medal, faithful see light cross in sky after great warning, Oils?... ?? )
  
  
  
• IDEAS FOR A BETTER LOOK (Ladies & Veil)
  
  How FAKE PUBS BRUNETTE & Erotica ARE KILLING CATHOLIC MARRIAGE FOR LIFE: Sarah x Agar…
  
  (because of unhappy husband: too few beautiful ladies to choose… SOS Aesthetics...
  
  correlations 30 years to detect trends:
  
  ... lady educating children in micro appart feels so happy as Husband with lady with not cared aesthetics... eats white sugared stuff=> brunette Scheherazade look puts husbands away...) Aesthethic care is to have heart for husband. Comparative Tables at section 'Our Lady of Fatima deserves better look'
  
  
  
• MODERN WOMAN IDEOLOGY UNMASKED:
  Demographic fall in West (+ Russia)…
  stats (1950 or) 1970-2019: Germany x India…
  
  
• LINKS TO some HEAVEN NEWS
  
  
• Censured on Twitter: @_ChristianIdeas
  
  
• At https://www.facebook.com/christian.ideas some images
  
  
• Possible:
  T shirts Posters “Songs” Christian Ideas and/or Russia Converted Catholic (‘made in Belgium’)...
  
  
• School
  (e.g. Maths, Computer Science: exercises, complements to Wikipedia…)
  
  
• Christian Ideas at Linkedin
  (https://be.linkedin.com/in/christian-ideas-104ba893)
  
  

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If You Want to Defend Good,

PROTECTIONS against EVIL + Take Cross Recommended

(IMMORTALITY SUGGESTION at 1st Sign of Danger,

CONTRACT WITH GOD (ICON AUTOMATIC SALVATION THROUGH DIVINE MERCY), (home page or below), + Daily (better, Attentive):

daily Rosary 2x, and / or

7 Sorrows, and / or

Crusade Prayer 33,

Crusade Prayer 140 (to speak without fears),

to be in state or go to confession catholic priest asap ...

+ details at christianideas.eu

I try to pray for protection all pro God of planet until 00:00h, to try to disinfest, but it's better to complement it, with 24h protective prayer, e.g., attentive rosary or daily rosary 2x or (easier/shorter) 7 Sorrows prayer.

Satan demanded to God 75-100 years to destroy Vatican + money + power => www.tldm.org. Satan had that time, that money, that power. 150 years later, despite dangers + evil, Vatican still resists. Let us see evolution... ??? apocalyptic? reversal pro God (again)???

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Note: www.christianideas.eu began in ~2009 and keeps improving. IT REMAINS INCOMPLETE + NOT PERFECT.

Because IT IS NOT FINISHED, NO FINAL VERSION (.pdf) EXISTS. IT KEEPS IMPROVING and there's still many changes to do (and few time, resources...). A complete review of the web site should be done, but it's already better than nothing...

If God helps, I'll try to improve and/or correct eventual detected errors, contents + design, little by little. A backup .zip exists (link colomn above). It contains the most important part of this web site.

Please feel free to print it, copy it, behalf, eventually, songs ... (content's license, above left, with some extra explanations, but the general goal is to give some freedom, for the use of the texts + images, in a good intentioned True Faith pro God use...)

Good intentioned Pub pro God True Faith welcome!!!
(protections from God recommended then! Evil doesn't like it...)

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Below: Our Lady of the Roses Honored Exposed and Death doesn't Enter inside.
(source: Jesus at old web site apparitionsmariales )