Ideas of Converted Russia

Apocalyptic Danger From Russia: Summary

Dramatic: Russia Not Correctly Consecrated!!!

What is the Problem Now with Russia?

Better "Cat & Mouse Game" Than Schismatic

The Origins: the Schism of 1054 + The "Golden Horn I"

The Russian/Chinese Intervention: the Apocalypse

Russia Converted Only With Many Rosaries

Russiaphobia/Paranoia: Alliance USA-Russia Could Stop WW3

The Crimea Question: Why Russia is Wrong

An Idea for the Resolution of the Ukranian Conflict

Freemasons/Illuminati created the monster USSR?

Western sanctions push Russia to alliance with Communists: Bad!

Russia Could Have Been ~2 Times Stronger Without Communisme

A Possible Russia converted: Kievan Rus back!

Maybe Russia Escape the Tribulations of the Apocalypse (?)

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Russia Must be Correctly Consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of the Virgin Mary

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Our Lady, the Virgin Mary, has asked since 1917, in Fatima (Portugal), to consecrate Russia, by the pope and all bishops of the world, to her immaculate heart. By the time of the pope John Paul II, some consecration of Russia was done. However, the Virgin Mary and Jesus, in New York, link Consecrate Russia, say that this consecration was not correctly done.

Some remarks:

• The pope and all the bishops of the world consecrated in the years 80 the whole world to the immaculate heart of Mary. The Virgin asked Russia alone and not the whole world.

• A cardinal consecrated Russia to the immaculate heart of Mary. What the Virgin asked was to consecrate Russia to her immaculate heart by the pope and all the bishops of the world, and not only by one cardinal alone.

• Sister Lucy was asked about these consecrations and she "answered" they were well done. But according to Our Lady in New York the consecration was invalid. Indeed, through Lucy's writing, we know that the "Sister Lucy's" letter with the "yes" answer had a handwriting that does not match the one of the real Sister Lucy, meaning, thus, that this answer is invalid. Furthermore, the smile of the real young sister Lucy goes up, but the one of the old (impostor?) sister Lucy goes down

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The Virgin said, that, in case of correct consecration, Russia would abandon her mistakes (ex. communism) and the world would profit of some extra peaceful period.

Just to mention some discrete signs that show that Russia was not correctly consecrated:

• Russia and most of the post soviet block (up to Kazakhstan and Armenia) should be already part of the European Union, which is not the case... Still 2 different Europe? Why?

• Russia is not yet a trustful ally of the West and a powerful apocalyptic military alliance with the (temporarily) triumphant China (against NATO) is already in place... and Russia is not always wrong... we know it...

• There were still wars after the years 80 in the Russian territory (Chechnya), neighbors(Georgia, Ukraine) and wars or dangerous military influence in others (Middle East, Syria). A well consecrated territory to the immaculate heart of Mary should remain peaceful... or, instead, converted Russia should be a tool of God to set divine order and harmony instead of potential apocalyptic destruction, annihilation of nations and terror...

• There's no union yet between the Catholic Church and the Russian Orthodox Church, under the legitimate leadership, which still remains the pope. Russians should convert to Catholicism (Polish/Ukrainian model, Russia of Kiev before 1054) and should help the Vatican to bring back old Christian Catholic tradition and fight modernisms, which is not the case... instead we have rivalry, rejection, disputes, ..., even if Orthodox (non communist) Russia may be right in several/many points...

What is the Problem Now with Russia?

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Before, Russia/USSR was Communist. Communisme is the Red Dragon, according to a private message from Heaven (please refer to the the Book of Truth), thus, an enemy of God.

Since the "partial consecration" from the popes, Russia is not communist anymore, but Russia was also not correctly consecrated, thus, there are important problems which persist.

The main problem, presently, I think is Orthodoxy, accompained with a almost complete absence of Catholics in Russia. This is a permanent problem which comes already since the Great Schism of 1054 (more details in page 'Islam', with an analysis over the fall of Constantinople).

While the Orthodox doctrine seems to be more or less correct, they're Schismatic. That is the main problem, I think. Because Jesus chose St. Peter as His Succeeder, and consequently, the Popes, as His legitimate succeeders.

It's true, the Vatican, gives now signs of weakness, it may fall one day, but it still remains the legitimate Church up to today. It should be better to have the Russians with us to try help us to bring back the Old Catholic Tradition, instead of keeping separated and letting us fall into "a New Age style Religion" which does not comes from God anymore... it has not yet happened, but, there are forces in this sense inside the Catholic Church...

Thus, while Russia remains a great militair world power, Orthodox expansionism at the expense of Catholicism, seems to be an error.

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Furthermore, conversion of (some) Russians to Catholicism seems to be difficult to happen: Why should they convert, if they're right in many points (the Vatican is even becoming more open to some Polluted Modernist Doctrines), their doctrine seems to be more or less correct, and they're a great power with the present model? Not evident...

Just to compare: despite the pollution of Modernisms and Protestantisms, we have more significant percentages of Catholics in the Anglo Saxonic lands, Germany, Netherlands, Ucraine... in Russia we have 0% Catholics...

Unfortunately, also as a "natural" consequence of this rivalry/tensions/rejection, Russia does also strategic alliances with "suspect" nations, like Communist China, and arms "suspect" nations like Iran and/or other Muslim lands... even if Russia becomes in "strong position", it can reinforce military the "enemies of the West/Israel" and trigger more easily the WW3 and the fall of the West... With a converted Russia, we would have another geostrategical balance, I think...

The current choices of Russia are difficult to change: the problem is more complex than it seems. Russia needs money, alliance with China reinforces its militar position, Russia is right in many points, even if those points are massively rejected by the West (polluted with modernist ideas). A Russia weak, poor, would make its government weaker/less popular also (inside Russia)... if Russia becomes a "marionet" of the West, when Russia is right in many points and maybe stronger militarly, it is also not really interesting, but otherwise, Russia risks rejection... Conclusion: When Russia is not converted, everything becomes more complex...

Better "Cat & Mouse Game" Than Schismatic

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I may understand some (east or traditionalist) Christians think with their own heads, and they don't go in "tales". In some sense, traditionalist/orthodox Christianity is better to Protestant & other sects... they're closer to the truth...

It's true, also, in these Apocalyptic times, the forces of Evil gain force inside the Catholic Church hierarchy, and some modernizations of the doctrine are "suspect" (not so holy).

However, the Will of God, since the begin, was a united Church. That Church had Peter as head, and since then, their legitimate followers... the Popes up to today...

It's true, the popes/Vatican can not change everything, they have not the right the set the holy doctrine completely "up side down". It may happen in the future, there are limits to changes, but, despite the attacks of the evil forces, the Vatican remains the legitimate autority up to today. Some discernment may be required in difficult situations and these are confusing times...

Doctrine versus Autority : which is the best choice?

The answer is less evident since the years 60, because, before, the Will of God, the True Doctrine and the Respect of the Legitimate Autority had a match of almost 100%. Now, it is not the case anymore, thus, some prudence is required; one case is not the other... it is however POSSIBLE to profess the True Faith inside the Catholic Church... we shall, thus, NOT separate from the Catholic Church (as long as it remains Legitimate)... the risk of Excommunication is not big (as long as we do not exaggerate)...

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In any case, to separate from the Catholic Church/Vatican, before it looses its legitimate autority, is to set us "out of game". It is what happened with Orthodox Curches and Lefebrists/Traditionalists, even if the doctrine is correct... Submit to legitimate autority is important also; it may show some humillity...

But Evil is increasing also inside the Catholic Church; there may be abuses of autority: we shall not be ingenuous neither... the Clerus do good their primary job of providing the Holy Sacraments and Union with Rome (up to the Fall)... however, because of this submition to the Vatican's autority, they can not do everything and the Vatican himself suffers blackmail from the evil forces...

That's why the best strategy for the believers, which are not directly under the autority of the Vatican, is to Support and Pray for our Legitimate (Catholic) Clerus, not judge them and to be somewhat "ruse", when possible (big cities, for ex.).

It is better some "Cat & Mouse game" to try to maximize the Will of God, than to be Separatist (Orthodox), or eventually to be silenced, as the Sister Lucy of Fatima (traps for the Clerus and their religious submition)...

For the members of the Clerus, not to submit to superior autorities may be dangerous also... they risk to be set out of the Catholic hierarchy... but they can always omit some things and try to play with ambiguity/autonomy to try to maximize the will of God...

However, normal believers, are relatively "more free", and are more able to play "cat and mouse" games (speccially in big agglomerations, with more choice of Cult places)... respect for the priesters is a good idea, but we can profit from ambiguities to change from Church from time to time, "to speak the Truth", when the control of clerus autority diminishes... ("Chinese style control" from the Clerus autorities (against believers) goes also against the Will of God: believers may profit of some freedom... in that case, recommended "cat & mouse game", but some obeissance also...)

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Protections against Evil well come, to avoid Traps!!! Don't be ingenuous!!! Intimidation is Big...

Even members of the Clerus, may take profit from some ambiguity, to favour the Will of God, when possible. It is still possible to profess the True Faith inside the Catholic Church... Dangers are however increasing, and priesters may have to do some things "less" holy in order to conform to the Catholic Hierarchy... There's limits to changes, but as long as there's no schism of the Fall, some "less holy changes" are not always so dramatic, if we/the Clerus conform to the Will of the Superiors... some ruse may be also wellcome in such cases...

Conclusion

Thus, better some ruse and Cat & Mouse Game, than to divorce from the Legitimate Catholic Church.

Conservative Russians and (orthodox) Clerus, if they would integrate the Catholic Church, in the Polish Ukranian (Greek Catholic) model and using this strategy could help (a lot) the conservative branch of the Vatican, and could help to restore order. With this divorce, everybody looses. Some "ruse" would be however required, to try to restore/reinforce the Will of God... the Evil One does the same "game", but with the opposite intentions... and He is gaining power, also inside the Vatican...

The Origins of the Problem: the Golden Horn, Constantinople and Orthodoxy

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Although it may be a coincidence, there's maybe another interpretation for the symbolism of the Golden Horn, Constantinople (now Istambul, Turkey), and Orthodoxy, speccially after the great schism of 1054 of the eastern churches.

Constantinople was the great Christian city of the time (1054), and had a great charm. It succeeded to seduce Kievan Rus to Christianity, Byzantine version. After the conquest of Constantinople by the Turks, Hagia Sofia became a mosque, for a time, Islam was promoted, but the Russians and other Slavs remained mostly orthodox.

That's why that charm for Constantinople Greek Byzantine Orthodox Faith didn't seem to come from Constantinople/Hagia Sofia only:

• previously neither the the german/latin version of Catholicism, neither Islam, neither Jewish Faiths etc., didn't have the same charm to seduce Kievan Rus...
• but afterwards Constantinople became Muslim, charming Hagia Sofia cathedral became a Mosque, but Russian Faith remained mostly Orthodox Christianity...

Thus, The cause from the Kievan Rus conversion to Byzantine Faith came maybe from something else... which made the difference...

I think the Swedish Vikings had maybe a role, giving Scandinavian charm to the Byzantine faith at the time of Kievan Rus conversion to christianity at 988...

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Indeed, the (Swedish) Vikings were recruted by the Byzantines and were active there since ~the 8th century... there's a kind of ambiguity from the part of the Vikings at the time... in Scandinavia self they were not yet Christians/Catholic, but further South they converted to true faith; they offered (sometimes) their services to Christian kings...

... maybe the Scandinavians/Vikings at the VIIIth century were somewhat angry/frustrated with christian West Europe, because the Goths and other Scandinavians lost their properties in Spain, Italy and Hungary, while their examples/governments there were relatively good... thus, the situation being more complex than it seems, they maybe played some ambiguity at the time...

At the time of official Kievan Rus conversion, 988, Constantinople did indeed made the difference, and it was still Catholic!

THE KIEVAN RUS OBSERVERS CONFESSED THEY DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ON EARTH OR ON HEAVEN!!!

YOU CAN THUS IMAGINE THE CHARM...

That's maybe why God is the Α/α (ALPHA), and the Ω/ω (OMEGA), and doesn't forget Greek Byzantine culture and the thirst for perfection...

Unfortunately, things went wrong... like the USA and the West now, it was to be expected the fall of Byzance one day, sooner or later in time... because people on earth are not perfect... nobody...

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At the time of the year ~1000 DC, the Muslims in Sicilia were threatening Central Italy... the Muslim Arabs had already colonies near Rome...

At the time, the true faith Normans, from Norwish origin, decided to free Italy from that Muslim domination... but at that time there were troubles between the true faith Germans and the Slavs in the area of present Poland...

Byzantium was trying to seduce the Slavs to true faith in the greek version... the Normans didn't do the game of Byzantium+Sweden and expelled the Byzantines (and its influence) from Italy... Byzantium, which had already lost a lot of territory to the Arabs, went in paranoia, found pretexts and triggered the great schism of 1054! For solidarity most of the Eastern churches follow Byzance and they fell also...

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Since then the great charm of Constantinople didn't interest anymore... the charm and greatness of Constantinople were used to rivalry against the legitimate autority of Rome and not to promote God's interests... a rivalry like the adultery in a couple, but with greatness and charm... a golden horn!

And since early, the golden horn and a (sickle) crescent Moon were symbols of Byzantium/Constantinople city... if we see the historical evolution of the city, I think it was no hasard... unfortunately, the possible Middle Ages Swedish efforts towards Constantinople fell in the ridicule... sometimes it happens... evil forces are very smart and try to change good work in ridicule...

...some centuries afterwards we have a BarbaRossa (from Viking origin), at the service of the Ottomans, condeming whole North Africa to remain Muslim and attacking Catholic efforts in the area...

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Thus, the great Orthodox rivalry didn't stop since 1054, but was solved with the conquest of Constantinople and progressive islamization of the city the Ottoman Turks... not brilliant, but the problem was solved... indeed the Catholics (and cruzades) were unable to change the situation in the Middle Ages...

Also European Kievan Rus/Russia was invaded by Turkic peoples and Mongols and was unable to help Byzance and the orthodox Balcans during several centuries...

Orthodox (and communist) Russia became a great power afterwards, but it's unable to contest the superiority of legitimate Christian autority, the pope/Vatican, up to the end of the world (but True Faith/Vatican is already under discreet attack from evil forces!)

The (Russian and) Chinese Attack: the Fall of the USA (West)

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Anyhow, Russia can still be very dangerous and play a crucial role in the fall of the world, which could be avoided with a correct consecration of Russia to the Heart of Mary.

Probably we merit it, because of our sins, but anyhow... I really prefer a Russia with us, champion, superstar, than a rejected/rival Russia, siding with China, a tool of Terror and an Apocalyptic Scourge for the West and for the World... we could let that role for China (without Russia) in a time, later in the future, no?

Please refer to the (conditional) prophecies of www.tldm.org, Russia and China, parts I and II...

Russia Properly Converted Only with Many Rosaries

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Our Lady said that Only with Many Rosaries can Russia be converted properly. References: related links in the French Web site Apparitions Mariales. Indeed, because of the strong activity of the forces of the evil inside the Vatican - we're in troubles, we need help -, it is very difficult for the popes to consecrate correctly Russia.

Properly converted Russia, I think, in the style super Poland/super Ukraine, would be the right solution for the world for several/many years...

Russiaphobia/Paranoia: real problem seems to be 0rthodoxy. Alliance USA-Russia Could Stop New World Order WW3

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Analysing previous messages from heaven, as long as Russia remains Not Converted (with very low % of catholics, better: conservative), I may conclude, that God/Heaven is Not very happy with present Russia, neither. That means: the "dirty" game/"paranoia" of the West/Freemasons/Illuminati searching pretexts to attack Russia, may be a bit "needed". Not because of those pretexts, true or false, it doesn't matter, but because, Russia remains not Catholic (conservative); it would show something remains wrong with (present) Russia. Indeed, perfection doesn't exist... nobody, no nation, here on earth...

However, this game, if exaggerated, is dangerous, it could trigger Apocalypse quicker... because, if there are radicalisms from both sides, West and Russia, each one with their weak points and sin increasing... it could lead to a crash... forcing Russia to the expected 'hangman' scenario: Russia, the "scourge of God", punishing the sinful West... nobody really wins with such scenario... a tendency in case of increasing sin/modernisms/communisms, leading to Apocalypse...

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Honestly, I prefer, rather, the (not ingenuous) Russia converted solution (the leader, the capital, it doesn't matter, if it is properly implemented), but as this chapter shows, there are permanent blockades, e.g., in the Vatican... it's quite difficult to implement it... many daily rosaries needed, better, accompained with divine mercy chaplets + Amsterdam prayers to try to calm things...

However, in a message from Our Lady of All Peoples from July 2018, GOD ASKS SERIOUS CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGS, A UNION RUSSIA-USA TO RESTORE CORRECT ORDER AND CUT PLANS OF NEW WORLD ORDER ELITE TO TRIGGER DESTRUCTIVE WW3, APOCALYPSE... IT COULD BE INTERESTING THAT THE POPE COULD STOP ALLIANCE WITH NEW WORLD ORDER ELITE... PRAYERS/ROSARIES NEEDED... CONVERSION OF RUSSIA TO CATHOLICISM CONSERVATIVE NOT INGENUOUS WELL COME...

The Crimea Question: Why Russia is Wrong

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Present day Russia seems to be correct in many points, while the West, relatively "free", is however polluted with several false doctrines, from Protestantisms to Modernisms and under a discrete but powerful control of evil forces like FreeMasonry and the Illuminati.

In the question of Crimea, I thought Russia was also right, because the majority of population there are ethnic Russians and they should have the right to choose freely their destiny. However, according to messages of God published in the French Web site apparitions mariales, God was not really happy with the Russian annexation of Crimea. Because logic of God is not that of men, I had to spend some time to try to discover the error in my "logic".

I think the reason is the usual one: God has no real interest in Orthodox (or even worse, Communist) expansionisme at the expense of Catholicisme, while His Legitimate Church/Autority remains the Catholic Church.

Ukraine has some Catholic influence, but inside Russia, Catholicisme is insignificant, while remaining the True Church, up to present day (please note that the Vatican is however under strong attack of the Forces of the Evil, and that since already the years 60... it may even fall in the (near) future).

Thus, if Crimea would remain inside Ukraine, the chance of having some "Catholic ethnic Russians" would be a little bit bigger. Inside not converted Russia, that chance is in practice, zero...

An Idea for the resolution of the Ukranian conflict

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The best solution should be, of course, Russia converted. This is very hard to implement: it is not to expect that the Vatican do it in the correct way so easily... we can however always pray for that...

Alternative solutions, may exist, but less good, of course... I would suggest that Ukraine would keep his borders after independence, but also not to hummilliate the ethnic Russians (or orthodox). Promotion should be given to the true religion, Catholic, traditional version, Byzantine ryte OK, with the legitimate autority (the pope until today: we must pray to avoid the fall/spliting of the legitimate Church), but without hummiliating the ethnical Russians inside the Ukranian (official) borders.

The problem: Russia is not yet properly converted, thus, the different parts in the war, may not accept interesting suggestions etc. With not converted Russia, everything becomes more complicated...

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Please don't forget that, while the best solution is to restore Crimea to Ukraine and to maintain the previous Ukranian borders, if the Russian people feels hummilliated, then that may be dangerous for its leaders and even for the whole world! Last time a severe revolution russian occured, about 100 years ago, the whole world suffered (with these Russian communist mistakes). Russians know they're (very) strong, that they're right in many points, so the things are more complicated than it seems...

Ideally, promoting/suggesting (traditional) Catholicism among ethnic Russians, e.g. in Ukraine or Russia, would be a good idea... because in the USA there are protestant and Catholic American citizens... they don't feel less Americans because of those religious differences...

Freemasons/Illuminati created also the USSR monster?

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According to a news from www.tldm.org, the freemason Illuminati complot, which are conquering intimidating the whole West with their new West New Ottoman Modernist Empire and educating West with their new modernist and communist ideologies since the years 1960, had already a great success in Russia in 1917: the creation of the great powerful communist USSR monster!!! Czarist Russia was already a great empire, and, if we exclude a possible conversion to conservative catholicisme, most (such!) changes were not needed!

Present ex soviet republics and regions under the influence of the USSR monster still suffer a lot from it: general poverty (when compared to lands under US influence) and demographic decadence! Present-day Russia is still very powerful, but it could be twice stronger with twice the number of inhabitants (I mean, for the same borders) if such USSR monster had never existed...

Western sanctions push Russia to alliance with Communists: Bad!

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It would be better an Ukranian Crimea in order to create Catholic conservative Russians (better: non naive, because Vatican also under attack of evil since ~1960s). But those sanctions, paranoia against present Russian leaders is a bit toxic also... Why?

Despite the fact Russia remains non converted, thus non catholic conservative (better: non naive), like in 1053, if Russian citizens are severely punished, then they may become unhappy and promote other kind of governments... toxic Illuminati red dragon communist monster USSR could even return back!

Prophecies of Our Lady in Garabandal warn about the dramatic consequences of the return of the communist monster Red dragon! NY Prophecies at www.tldm.org speak over the decadence pro apocalyptic of the world and a triumphing communist, it could even be through democratic elections...

Thus, it's better that present Russian gov (+ present leaders) remain. But with such toxic Western sanctions, it's hard for Russia to have some wealth without deals with anti West lands, e.g., communist govs... Result: Russia, even if it's not toxic ex-USSR, supports again communist govs: toxic, thus... with a non converted Russia present scenario, it's hard to exit the vicious circle...

Solutions? Not so easy! Blockade in Vatican, evil discreetly strong there... Russians convert not so easily to true faith... Orthodox leaders could join Opus Dei (but in a non naive strategy: better to use protections of God also: daily rosary 7 sorrows etc)

complex: rosaries + divine mercy chaplets welcome to try to calm things...

Russia Could Have Been ~2 Times Stronger Without Soviet Revolution!

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I think Russia could have been at least 2 times stronger without that Satanic Freemason Bolchevique Revolution...

Why?

Simply because, despite schism/orthodoxy, Czarist Russia was christian conservative, and without such interruption in czarist governance, demography would follow its normal traject in Russia... Russia would have thus now 2 or 3 times more population... there's enough space for such people in huge Russia...

... Communists came with satanic ideas of control natality, abortion, and, for a period, USSR had one of the biggest abortion's rate of the world... with consequences to Demography...

Not only other ex-soviet lands suffered with communism: Russia also... Russia became a lot less powerful than it should be...

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Because USSR was in anycase very powerful, at least in military level, these details were not really visible... I think that everybody agrees a present Russia now with 420 million inhabitants would be at least 2 x more powerful than present-day Russia... demography counts...

But because Russia was already schismatic/separatist from True Faith/Vatican at 1917, evil profited from the military power from ex-czarist Russia to spread its ideologies... what a pity for the world... and even now, orthodox Russia + some Asiatic powers, can trigger the fall of the world at any moment... conversion of (orthodox or communist) Russia required to try to change things...

A Possible Russia converted: Kievan Rus back, 1000 years later!

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I think, without some (peaceful) concessions, it's not really possible, a stable Russia/Unkraine united in a converted Russia...

In case of a converted catholic conservative Russia, the capital could be Kiev again, a return to the origins, 1000 years ago, but with a much bigger empire... however, the chances that this happens are quite small (please refer to the sections above)... things normally remain like it is, thus...

Which means, in case of an (automatic) present fusion, the present government of Ukraine could take the leadership, but, only, up to the next elections, of course! After elections, the majority of the people would decide, and some changes should maybe be expected... the leaders of the biggest/other parts could collaborate, of course,e.g., as ministers etc, up to the results of the following elections...

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DANGER: WITH CATHOLIC CONSERVATIVE CONVERTED RUSSIA INGENUOUS/INTIMIDATED BY THE GREAT OTTOMAN ILLUMINATI COMMUNIST FREEMASON MODERNIST WEST EMPIRE, RISK OF APOCALYPSE INCREASES AND CHINA (or possible replacer candidate superpower in the decades/centuries to come (?)) IS ABLE (AGAIN) TO DESTROY/MASTER A POSSIBLE ALLIANCE WEST (+ RUSSIA)!

I THINK CONVERTED RUSSIA WOULD BE A 100% LEGITIMATE SUPERPOWER, in a Polish style, BUT MUCH STRONGER. THE WORLD COULD STILL RESIST SOME CENTURIES MORE, IF CONVERTED RUSSIA IS WISE ENOUGH TO RESTORE BACK THE ORDER, ACCORDING TO THE WILL OF GOD, and not to go in Western freemason modernist tales and their "new modernist educating Islam", which is discreetly educating/intimidating the West/world citizens actively since the years 1960...

I think the charm of this new (old) Kievan Russia would be enormous, excuses/errors like orthodoxy/communism would disappear and could even have a big integrative effect (e.g. volontary union Ukraine+ present Russia+ eventually Cazakhstan+ Belarus + a leadership role in Nato, even with EU etc.)

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Danger of Ingenuity from Kiev in a Possible Converted Russia

If there would be a fusion Russia/Ukraine, with capital/leadership in Kiev, a strong collaboration between (present) Moscow leaders and those of Kiev would be required. Why? If Kiev wants to please at all costs to the West, the risks of traps/ingenuity increases! Converted Russia shall be able to say 'NO', when required, to act when required, while having a Polish/Croatian legitimacy.

Because of orthodoxy and other errors, Moscow is regularly excluded from the West Capitalist club, and that with strong freemason cumplicity... this exclusion can be interesting, showing to Moscow there's something wrong (Orthodox schism, communism), but can be dangerous also, in case of escalade, while modernist errors advance in the West.

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Orthodox Moscow is strong enough to remain outside control of the elites illuminati/freemason, and that irritates them: some paranoia is visible, like for Mr Trump, or the popes of the past... Thus, Moscow has more experience with difficult situations... Kiev should thus work positively and not ingenuously with Moscow, and if possible with Vatican, present Poland/Hungary and also with the USA outside Freemason control,e.g. Mr Trump... in practice, it's more complicated, and nothing in the good direction is done... because freemason style forces control already a lot... rosary prayers needed...

AN UKRANIAN LEADER OF CATHOLIC CONSERVATIVE CONVERTED RUSSIA IS ONLY A POSSIBILITY AMONG OTHERS. FURTHER NORTH (Moscow, St Petersburgh), THEY HAVE THE FORCE AND KNOW HOW KIEV DOESN'T HAVE FOR DIFFICULT SITUATIONS. BUT KIEV HAS A LEGITIMACY MOSCOW OR FURTHER NORTH WOULDN'T EASILY HAVE (in the eyes of the West)... however risks of traps, ingenuity, submission to Illuminati forces... increase, with an Ukranian leader as leader of a possible (big) converted Russia. Just to remeber, Converted Russia means: a Russia with a significant % of Catholics and Conservative (latin or byzantine ryte).

IF YOU WANT TO DEFEND GOOD, PROTECTIONS OF GOD AGAINST EVIL RECOMMENDED (+ details in homepage). OF COURSE, A 100% CORRECT CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA BY THE POPE WOULD MAKE THINGS A LOT EASIER, AND THE CAPITAL/LEADER WOULDN'T MATTER THAT MUCH (but some discernment/preparation always well come, because traps could still be possible, I think).

Maybe Russia Escape the Tribulations of the Apocalypse (?)

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According to some prophecies from Heaven concernning Russia in the French web site apparitionsmariales.org, Russia maybe the church who escapes the tribulations of the Apocalypse.

Even if not converted (that means: they'd remain schismatic: Orthodox and not Catholic), if they recognize completely Jesus and search good and not evil, maybe they escape the tribulations. It seems that Russia is too strong and the Antichrist can not go inside Russia. I think, that, while the rest of the world falls into sin, the Russophobia and anti Russia paranoia from the modernists, may serve to purify Russia. And because, at the given time, Vatican also falls (loses its legitimacy as the true church, becoming instead, the seat of the Antichrist), then the church of Russia, if loyal to the true christian values, could be saved. To be confirmed with the sources, of course.

The problem: We, the West, we're the big losers, if Russia is not converted!!! It is dramatic, yes, for us, not really for Russia... Of course, with Russia converted, we would have a Russia superstar saving the planet, but that is difficult to happen and there's no real motivation in the West, who wants to see Russia rather as rivals to despise... a sad story, yes, but for us, in the West...

P.S. Prudence is necessary in my reasonings, because the messages from heaven seem to be somewhat contradictory... but we can always pray for the correct consecration of Russia to the immaculate heart of Mary, in order to try to restore the order to the world...

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PROTECTIONS against EVIL Recommended

(IMMORTALITY SUGGESTION at 1st Sign of Danger,

CONTRACT WITH GOD (ICON AUTOMATIC SALVATION THROUGH DIVINE MERCY), (home page),

Daily Rosary etc.

+ details at www.christianideas.eu )

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Note: www.christianideas.eu began in ~2009 and keeps growing. IT REMAINS INCOMPLETE + NOT PERFECT.

Because IT IS NOT FINISHED, NO FINAL VERSION (.pdf) EXISTS. IT KEEEPS GROWING/IMPROVING and there's still many changes to do (and few time, resources...).

If God helps, I'll try to improve and/or correct eventual detected errors, contents + design, little by little.

Often, through @_ChristianIdeas on Twitter, I set some remarks, comments... which complement a bit this site.

Please feel free to print it, copy it... (contents license above left with some extra explanations, but the general goal is absolute freedom in a good intentioned True Faith pro God use...)

Good intentioned Pub pro God True Faith welcome!!!
(protections from God recommended then! Evil doesn't like it...)

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